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DoC Answers Barrier Questions 2003


DoC’s Answers Submissions Issues

Great Barrier Island Marine Reserve Proposal
22 December 2003


The following list identifies the main issues (in bold) raised by those who objected outright or with qualifications to the Great Barrier Island (GBI) marine reserve proposal. The issues listed are those most commonly raised i.e. more than 15 times each.

DOC would like to provide submitters and other interested people with the following information in response to the issues that have been raised (or download as a PDF in links box). The department is carefully considering the concerns raised by submitters.

Key: black text = DoC comment; blue text = option4 comment

In this document DoC aims to dispel misgivings expressed by the public. option4 have the following to say in response to their comments.


1. Marine reserves take away the rights of recreational fishers to fish.
Recreational fishers have a common law access right to New Zealand fisheries. However, this right does not guarantee amateur fishers unrestricted access to all waters. Statutory law prohibits fishing in some areas e.g. the Submarine Cables and Protection Act 1996 prevents fishing in some cable protection zones and the Fisheries Act 1996 is sometimes used to close some areas to fishing.

Too many of the freedoms of New Zealanders has been whittled away by laws that do not deliver.


The fisheries within New Zealand’s 200 nautical mile Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) are a public resource, the common property of all New Zealanders, with the Government holding management rights over them. The Government has the responsibility to look after this country’s waters and fisheries and make decisions about their management.

Where the Government believes areas must be free of fishing to protect marine plants and animals, to underpin sustainable fisheries management or to provide for scientific study, then the Government has the power, and the responsibility, to close areas to fishing.

Note the careful use of the word believe. No scientific evidence defends NZ's marine biodiversity strategy which believes that marine reserves provide the only way to protect marine biodiversity. Fishermen and the NZ public are questioning the validity of this belief and the urgency behind it.


When the Government wants to close areas to fishing, it also has the responsibility to provide scientific evidence for the need to do so. It also needs to consider alternatives and the cost to the taxpayer and future generations. This has not been done.


2. Because of inclement weather, the north-east coast of GBI is not over-fished and is therefore self-protecting. Fish do not need protecting as they are not at risk.
The purpose of the Marine Reserves Act 1971 is to preserve, as marine reserves for the scientific study of marine life, areas of New Zealand that contain underwater scenery, natural features or marine life, of such distinctive quality, or so typical, or beautiful, or unique, that their continued preservation is in the national interest.

Note the purpose of marine reserves for the scientific study of marine life. It should be questioned why we need 10% of the territorial sea for this purpose, or 1,600,000ha or 3000 reserves the size of the Goat Island marine reserve of about 500ha. DoC is clearly awaiting the passing of the new Marine Reserves Bill, now before parliament. This changes the purpose of marine reserves to that of protecting biodiversity and habitats. It is therefore premature for DoC to push ahead with marine reserves before this Bill is enacted. It may fail.


The MR Act does not require proposed marine reserve areas to be heavily fished or, conversely, not fished at all. In addition, the purpose of the MR Act is not to protect fish.

There is absolutely no valid reason to protect 52,000ha of GBI marine reserve for scientific study. This area is equally inaccessible to scientists as it is to fishermen.


It may well be that few people currently use the north-east coast of Great Barrier Island for recreational fishing. However, over time, it is likely that more people will use the area as the population of Auckland and other regions adjacent to the proposed reserve grow.

More affluence + more people = more boats = more fishing. This sounds reasonable, but the fact is that the total take is controlled by bag limits and Total Allowable Catch limits. As more people use the sea for fishing, their daily take goes down accordingly. As more of the sea is locked up, the daily take must come down too.


3. Greater restrictions should be placed on commercial fishing, or commercial fishing should be banned.
The Ministry of Fisheries is the Government agency responsible for the conservation and management of fisheries in this country. The Ministry manages commercial fishing in New Zealand under the Quota Management System (QMS).

The MRA1971 is a dead end and it is wrong for DoC to manage areas of the sea when the Ministry of Fisheries holds all other trump cards for the preservation of our seas. Within the Fisheries Act, all options and alternatives can be considered, whereas DoC can wield only one sledge hammer, that of total closure forever, and only for one reason, that of doing research.


It is true that commercial fishing has a significant impact on New Zealand’s fisheries. However, fishing is a popular recreational activity for as many as one in five New Zealanders. Each year thousands of New Zealanders go fishing and take large numbers of finfish, rock lobsters and shellfish. These quantities, from a very wide range of species, can seriously affect local fisheries (Source: Ministry of Fisheries website).

True, but there is wide consultation and discussion on how to do things better.


4. Marine reserves don’t work - where is the scientific evidence of the benefits of marine reserves?
Scientific research in marine reserves shows that marine reserves play important roles in:

  • Conserving representative samples of biological diversity, False. None of our marine reserves have been evaluated. They are degrading, which means loss of biodiversity over time.
  • Protecting critical sites for reproduction and growth of species, False. None of our coastal marine reserves has been chosen this way. Most reserves were created adjacent to land managed by DoC or local government.
  • Protecting settlement and growth areas for marine species so as to provide spill-over into adjacent areas, False. No studies have shown that the idea of recruitment and settlement is actually real. In areas with more and larger predators, there will be fewer recruits of other species and less total egg production for all species.
  • Providing focal points for education about marine ecosystems, False. Wide-ranging education to the public and school children is possible only in places with good access and clear water. Very few coastal marine reserves do this.
  • Providing sites for nature-based recreation and tourism, False. Only reserves with good access and clear water do this. Most of our reserves don't.
  • Providing undisturbed control or reference sites as a baseline for scientific research on the effects on marine life elsewhere, and False. Most marine reserves are disturbed by pollution from the land. None have been used as reference sites and it is unlikely that they will.
  • Contributing to increased knowledge of marine ecosystems. False. There is little that can be learnt from marine reserves that cannot be learnt from non-reserve areas. Many components of marine ecosystems are not affected by fishing. Some are.

There have been many scientific studies undertaken to determine the benefits and effects of marine reserves, both in New Zealand and overseas. Some of the results are outlined below.

The number of legal-sized snapper in the Leigh marine reserve in 2003 was 28 times greater than outside the reserve (Source: University of Auckland fish monitoring report).

Goat Island, jutting half a kilometre out in sea, provides shelter and relatively clear deep water near snapper feeding grounds. It is a snapper hot spot. No other coastal marine reserve has shown such abundance, either here in NZ or overseas. Snapper abundance is measured by the Baited Underwater Video method, which exaggerates results. To keep mentioning the abundance factor of 28 is pure propaganda and bad science.


The average number of lobsters has almost doubled inside Leigh marine reserve in the last two years (Source: Coastal and Aquatic Systems Ltd lobster monitoring report, 2003).

This kind of propaganda and fact-twisting is unacceptable. Fact is that the crayfish population crashed by 85% in 1998, due to land-based pollution. To mention that it has been recovering in the 'good years' of 2000-2002, without mentioning their demise, is pure propaganda and bad science. Abundance of crayfish in the marine reserve in 2003 is no more than 30% of what it was for nearly fifteen years pre-1998. Most crayfish today are very young and small due to a single good recruitment year.


Research has shown that reserves do not “lock up” fisheries resources. For lobster, catch per unit effort yield and costs are the same adjacent to a reserve as in open fishing areas nearby. Therefore, conservation goals are achieved at no cost to the fishery (Source: Babcock, R. 2003: The New Zealand marine reserve experience: the science behind the politics).

Unacceptably false. The lost fishery is a cost never mentioned. Crayfish inside the marine reserve and their increase in numbers is definitely locked up. Fishing the line does not lower CPUE or provide higher yield and catches to make up for the lost fishery.


Blue cod are larger inside the Long Island-Kokomohua Marine Reserve than outside (Source: Davidson 2001).

Snapper increased in number and mean snapper size has increased in the Poor Knights Islands Marine Reserve (Source: Denny, C. M., Willis, T. J., Babcock, R. C. 2003. Effects of Poor Knights Marine Reserve on demersal fish populations. DOC Science Internal Series 142. Department of Conservation. 34p.).

True. Immediately after complete closure, snapper numbers in shallow water increased remarkably. Because the Poor Knights are an oasis-type of marine reserve, they attract fish from far around. The warmer shallow waters attract fish from the deep. The years 1999-2000 provided unusually warm waters and record spawning. As the large fish were not born after the total fishing ban, they must have migrated from far afield but the sub-legal and just-legal snapper recruited after the complete ban on fishing. Snapper migrate daily and seasonally from deep cold to shallow warm water, presumably to digest their food faster and to grow faster. It probably gives them a sense of wellbeing. But please note that the warm shallows are but a very small fraction of the total deep colds. So a high density found here (or fished here) translates to a very low density (or take) in the deep reefs.


In the Barbados Marine Reserve, 18 of 24 species were bigger inside the reserve than outside.

Not surprising. Let's stay in NZ. How many of our coastal marine reserves show this?


In the Maria Island Reserve in Tasmania, there has been a 260% increase in the number of rock lobsters within the reserve and rock lobsters in the reserve produce ten times more eggs than those outside the reserve.

Let's keep our facts to New Zealand. Where is our rocklobster success story, and will it last? They fled from Goat Island in 1998 due to excessive inflows of mud, which affected outside areas equally.


In the Sumilon Island Reserve in the Philippines, research has shown that 18 months after fishing was resumed in the reserve, the total yield of fish was 54% less.

Not surprising. There are no fishery regulations. Sumilon is not NZ.


5. There has been a lack of consultation.
Most marine reserve proposals involve both pre-statutory consultation (occurs before a formal application is made) and statutory consultation (occurs after a formal application has been made) but only the statutory process is mandatory.

During the pre-statutory consultation for the GBI marine reserve proposal, DOC distributed about 4,500 copies of the proposal document, “A Marine Reserve for Great Barrier Island? – Your chance to have a say, and questionnaire to 180 organisations, groups and clubs and approximately 600 individuals from March 2003. DOC held meetings on GBI, in the Auckland region and in Whitianga.

Why a public meeting in Whitianga but none in Auckland where most users of the proposed reserve area reside?


Articles and advertisements appeared in a number of newspapers and magazines, including the NZ Herald, regional Auckland papers, Dominion-Post and Barrier Bulletin. Items also appeared on the following television programmes: Breakfast, TV One News and TV 3 News.

DoC should supply the budget for the proposal complete with details on the advertising component of the total.


Information about the proposal was also available on the department’s website, at the department’s offices in Auckland, Warkworth and GBI and its Auckland Visitors Centre.

People will have an opportunity to make their views known on the GBI marine reserve proposal if DOC proceeds with it. The Marine Reserves Act 1971 outlines the process that must be followed for every marine reserve application. Each marine reserve application must be publicly notified at least twice in newspapers. Following notification, all interested persons will have two months to send their objections or submissions in support in writing to the Director-General of Conservation. The Minister of Conservation must consider all objections prior to approving a marine reserve.

The GBI marine reserve has clearly shown that DoC does not listen, even though it claims to consult. It should now abandon the idea permanently in the face of such overwhelming adverse reaction.


6. Concern about not being able to anchor in a marine reserve.
Boats can anchor in a marine reserve so the creation of a marine reserve will not stop people anchoring or sheltering along the north-east coast of GBI. When anchoring, skippers are encouraged to minimise disturbance to the sea floor. In highly sensitive or heavily used areas inside marine reserves DOC may install moorings so skippers can anchor without disturbing the sea floor.

The fine for uprooting kelp can be $5000 as is releasing a fish or urinating, according to the Marine Reserves Bill before parliament. When you have fish on board, it is up to you to prove that you did not catch it inside the reserve. It could cost you 6 months in jail or $250,000.

Where has DoC provided a mooring? At the Poor Knights which has sensitive areas, they have all been removed. At Leigh they have never been put in place. Private initiatives have been prohibited or hindered.


7. The proposed area is too big.
Many people have suggested that the proposed GBI reserve is too large and that they wish to continue to use parts of it. DOC is now looking closely at submissions received, and is gathering more information on how people use the proposed area. The impact that the establishment of a marine reserve may have on people who use the area will be carefully considered before DOC proceeds.

The proposed GBI marine reserve covers approximately 18% of GBI’s coastline. Currently, New Zealand has 18 marine reserves that make up 7.34% of the territorial sea (area from the coast out to 12 nautical miles). If the current GBI proposal became a marine reserve this figure would increase to 7.64%.

At present the total area preserved in 17 reserves around NZ mainland's coast is 15,000ha. The GBI reserve would add 52,000ha or increase its size by 350% to 67,000ha. There must be very strong reasons to need this space for conducting marine research!


8. There are enough/too many marine reserves already.

It is Government policy to achieve a target of protecting 10% of New Zealand’s marine environment by the year 2010 (Source: NZ Biodiversity Strategy 2000). It is intended that marine reserves will contribute to this target.

There exists a conflict between the Biodiversity Strategy and the Marine Reserves Act. There exists no scientific reason or convincing logic to need 10% or 1,600,000ha for marine research. Many NZers are confused. The Biodiversity Strategy (marine) is seriously flawed.


9. Locals use the area for ‘sustenance’ fishing.
Many local residents and some visitors have said they use the Whangapoua estuary and coastal waters for gathering shellfish and sustenance fishing and that they would like to continue this activity. DOC is planning to discuss this issue further with residents and other people who may be affected by a marine reserve being established.

People living there do not have a supermarket or fish shop stocked with fish. If you want to eat fish, you have to catch it yourself. Marine reserves must respect sustenance fishing.


10. The area should be protected by a marine park instead of a marine reserve.
There are two New Zealand examples that show partial protection, such as excluding commercial fishing and placing restrictions on recreational fishing, does not always provide a high enough level of protection to marine areas.

Limited recreational fishing was allowed in most of the Poor Knights Islands Marine reserve from 1981, when it was established, until 1998. In the two years after fishing was prohibited in 1998, snapper numbers increased by 16 times. Other fish populations are now recovering to a more natural state.

The Poor Knights total closure has shown that fishing affected only a single species. They showed a remarkable increase which coincided with the La Niña phase warm waters. But there have been mass mortalities of particularly planktivorous species in 1983, 1992 and in 2001 (El Niño phase cold waters), most likely due to poisonous plankton blooms triggered by nutrient enrichment from the land. In this respect even the remotely located Poor Knights are not exempted from land-based pollution, so what does a more natural state mean? The effect of total closure on other species has been unnoticeable. Please note that the Poor Knights are located at the edge of the continental shelf in usually clear waters. They are also a natural oasis for fish. They are not representative of our coastal marine reserves.


At the Mimiwhangata Marine Park, limited recreational fishing has continued since 1984 when the park was created. Commercial fishing was prohibited in the area in 1994. A long history of monitoring of marine life since 1976 showed only a small change in populations of fish and crayfish up to the present. In 2002 and 2003 studies of snapper showed no difference inside compared to outside the marine park, so even the limited amount of recreational fishing in the park has an impact on the species that live within it.

In marine reserves like Hahei, the abundance of snapper inside the reserve is not impressive either, but more importantly, the Mimiwhangata Marine Park has never been advertised adequately nor its rules enforced. There are no signs at boat ramps announcing its presence and restrictions. The MMP consists of a massive amount of shallow sands with narrow margins of rocky shore and no shelter near deep feeding grounds. It is not a snapper hot spot.


11. The Navy area is a no fishing zone already.

It is true that fishing is not permitted in the Navy zone on the north-east coast of GBI. The Navy area was not established for the purpose of protecting marine biodiversity but may have the effect of doing so. If enforced properly, areas like the Navy zone on the north-east coast of GBI can prevent most activity that may threaten biodiversity values.

However, the Navy area does not contain many different types of marine habitat e.g. estuary, beach, deep water reefs etc. The marine reserve proposal that DOC has put forward for GBI includes many different types of marine habitat in one reserve.

The Navy area could have been a good starting point with at least 80% of all other habitats nearby. There is again confusion as to the purpose of marine reserves. Are they needed to do marine research, to protect biodiversity or as an insurance for fisheries collapses?


12. Fishing pressure would increase elsewhere if a reserve was established on GBI.

Pressure may increase elsewhere if a reserve is created on the north-east coast of GBI. While DOC does not look specifically at the displacement of fishing effort, this issue is partially addressed by trying to locate marine reserves in sites that impact as little as possible on existing patterns of use in the area.

DoC does not have the mandate to look at the whole picture and all of its issues. It cannot consider the alternative of a trawler ban combined with a locally managed fishing area or marine park.


13. It would be difficult to police such an area.
Many aspects of law enforcement are difficult in New Zealand. For example, it is difficult for police to enforce speed limits as they do not have the ability to be on all roads at all times. This difficulty does not mean that we should forget about law enforcement in this country.

People are quite willing to abide by laws that are reasonable. The fishing community would be willing to accept reasonable fishing restrictions and police these if tangible benefits would accrue.


The day-to-day management of marine reserves is done by DOC, often with help from the local community. Honorary rangers sometimes assist DOC with aspects of marine reserve management, such as law enforcement. It is expected that DOC would cooperate with the Navy, Police, Customs Service and Ministry of Fisheries to police the GBI reserve, as it does for some other marine reserves in New Zealand.

Here is a major flaw in DoC's centralised policies. Internationally it has been shown that marine reserves are best managed locally, backed by proper legislation. DoC must devolve the budget to the local community. Policing is best done by fishermen and the locals. It is also the cheapest way resulting in highest compliance.


14. Concern about being stopped within a marine reserve with fish on board which were caught outside of the marine reserve.
Fish caught outside a marine reserve can be transported on board a boat through a marine reserve. There is no problem with having fish on board a boat inside a marine reserve as long as the fish were caught outside the reserve.

The problem is that you are deemed guilty unless you can PROVE yourself innocent, and that you caught the fish outside (new MR Bill).


15. There needs to be a strategy to create a marine protected areas network rather than an ‘ad hoc’ approach.
Government policy, as outlined in the New Zealand Biodiversity Strategy 2000, supports a strategy for establishing a network of areas that protect marine biodiversity. DOC is currently developing a strategy which aims to identify a network of areas that protect marine biodiversity in the Hauraki Gulf.

Using an integrated approach, the question is not where to put the pegs but what other alternatives are available, and particularly what is the problem? DoC is simply unable and unwilling to do this type of analysis.


It is envisaged that key stakeholders and the wider community will be involved in the decision-making processes for this strategy. However, such an approach may take some time. For example, a strategic approach to marine protection that was undertaken in Victoria, Australia took approximately ten years to complete.

There is no defensible haste. Why do things wrong today when we can do them right tomorrow?


In the absence of a strategic approach, DOC must continue to follow Government policy and work towards the target of protecting ten percent of New Zealand’s marine environment by 2010.

We are questioning this policy. Why is DoC not questioning it?


16. I use this area for customary fishing.
Some people told DOC that they use the estuary and other parts of GBI’s north-east coast for customary fishing. DOC is planning to discuss this issue with local iwi and hapu. It is possible that areas of high value for customary fishing (e.g. parts of the Whangapoua estuary) could be excluded from the marine reserve.

There is no point creating a marine reserve as fishing is not the problem, sedimentation & pollution etc are problems and marine reserves do not stop these

Sedimentation, introduced marine pests and marine pollution are all threats to the marine environment. It is DOC’s view that while management of these threats is critical to the long-term health of the marine environment, there is no reason to delay the creation of marine reserves when such reserves have proven benefits to marine life.

It is our view that this is not so. Where is the scientific proof of what DoC views and believes? What are the proven benefits to marine life (of all species) when DoC has not evaluated any of the existing marine reserves for their degradation? Why should we believe what they say in the absence of proof or even of any investigation? What are the real costs and liabilities as opposed to the perceived benefits?


We have not let problems with pests, weeds and erosion stop us setting aside conservation areas on land e.g. national parks like Tongariro and reserves like Tiritiri Matangi. As a society we can handle many problems simultaneously. So whether it is water pollution, marine pests, threats from fishing or marine reserves, we can deal with them together.

Tongariro was useless land consisting of rock and ice, most national parks are either too steep, too wet or too dry. Inside these parks, pests still roam uncontrollably, threatening our native flora and fauna. We as a society have not been able to handle these problems. Conservation does not work when some major (unnatural) threats remain. Marine reserves cannot work in areas threatened by land-based pollution. Only by saving the land can we save our (coastal) seas. This is what DoC must focus on. The main problem with DoC's arguments is that they treat the sea as if it were the land. Setting aside a wilderness island makes sense but a marine reserve is not at all like this. Landbased pollution does not flow uphill to soil our national parks.


17. Marine reserves should be in an accessible area.
The Marine Reserves Act 1971 does not specify that marine reserves be established in areas that are accessible to the public. The Act does state that the public should have the right of entry into the reserves so that they may enjoy, in full measure the opportunity to study, observe, and record marine life in its natural habitat.

True, but at least reserves in accessible places with clear water are enjoyed, while they are degrading further.


18. Marine reserves should be in inaccessible areas, not good recreational fishing spots.
The Marine Reserves Act 1971 does not specify that marine reserves be established in areas that are inaccessible. However, the north-east coast is, as many submitters pointed out, inaccessible a lot of the time due to weather conditions and wind. It is also relatively inaccessible due to its geographic isolation e.g. it takes at least 2 hours to travel by boat from Auckland to the north-east side of Great Barrier Island.

It is equally inaccessible to marine research. So what is the point of locking it up?


19. I use the area for recreational activities such as diving, swimming, surfing, walking, building sandcastles.
Activities like diving and snorkelling, swimming, sunbathing, walking, surfing and building sandcastles are all permitted under the Marine Reserves Act so people can continue to enjoy these activities if a marine reserve is established on the north-east coast of GBI.

But you are not allowed to take sand home inside your shoes. Floor Anthoni wanted one spoonful of sand from the Kermadec Islands for his studies of beaches and this was refused!


20. It is not possible to dive at the greater water depths of the proposed GBI reserve.
Marine reserves are not established specifically for divers. The purpose of the Marine Reserves Act 1971 does not state that marine reserves must be suitable for diving.

True. Marine reserves are for conducting marine research, which will need to be done here with submersibles and remote-controlled vehicles.
 


By October 2003, about three months before this article was published, DoC created a marine unit within its organisation and the above is what they produced. Now ask yourself seriously:

  1. Would you have confidence in this organisation managing 10-20% of our seas?
  2. As you can see, there exists an enormous gap in perspective between DoC and fishermen. What do you think is the root cause of this?
  1. misunderstanding
  2. lack of consultation
  3. plain deceit

Tell Me More
For a more thorough dissection of these comments got to https://www.seafriends.org.nz/issues/cons/myths8.htm

To learn more about marine protection and the potential of marine reserves in the right place for the right reasons go to https://www.seafriends.org.nz

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